E0028 | Listen in on a Consult with a Friend: Part 1

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Ken & nick InterviewWe have another episode of the Homegrown Liberty Podcast. This is episode 28! I’m glad you’re here reading this, because I have a totally different show for you guys today and if you want the whole thing, you have to tune in to the podcast because I can’t do a whole transcript of the show, sorry. I will however include a transcript of some of the beginning and end of the show with my thoughts. 

I have a friend I met a few years ago who is joining us today. We met at one of Jack Spirko’s workshops, hit it off, and started talking about once a week about everything homesteading and gardening you can think of. I’ve become his consultant so to speak and I’ve helped him figure out a lot of the plan for his property. So the thing is, we were talking a few months ago, and we kept saying, “man, this would be so helpful if people could just kind of sit in on our conversations and just be a fly on the wall”. And it occurred to me, that you guys might like to hear some of the consulting I do, because a lot of the same issues will translate to your own properties and, the same problems that you guys are likely to face.

Before we get into it though, I thought I’d tell you just a little bit about Ken and who he is before he tells you in his own words. They moved 3 years ago from the city to the country after buying 16 acres in the sticks. Ken runs a technology company in Alabama, and they aren’t full time on their homestead. He works about 50-60 hours a week on his regular job, and does all the rest of the homestead work in the evenings, and weekends along with his wife and two kiddos. They have a 10 year old girl and a 7 year old boy, and it just so happens that our first call in guest was his daughter! So I say all that to say, if Ken can make it happen with his crazy work schedule, so can you!

But anyways, this is the first part of our conversation where I introduce Ken and he covers their experiences starting seeds with the issues and problems they faced. We talk about solutions and the comparisons between doing something, and doing it smart. Irrigation needs and solutions. And lessons in starting out learning how to garden. We compare what’s ideal, and the end goal vs. how you should start and advantage yourself to learn while you’re starting your learning curve. And you hear my thoughts on how any garden is better than the perfect imaginary garden.

[INTERVIEW WITH NICK & KEN]

We really enjoyed doing this episode for you guys, we hope you liked it, we’ll pick it up again next week with part two, but before we sign off, I’d like to give you some of my thoughts and observations.

Ken talked about getting his seeds started with a couple less than ideal methods, and despite my efforts to educate people on how seedlings grow and their light needs, I run into people insisting on buying shop lights to grow their seedlings. Well it’s fine for starting seeds that need light to germinate, but absolutely not good enough for growing plants under. You need real sunlight, or a real good higher powered grow light. It’s amazing the difference, yes they’re more expensive, but so is buying plants every year. I’d rather grow my own and grow tons of them than spend hundreds of dollars on plants every spring when I can make the investment once and be done with it. So you might want to check out some of my early podcast episodes for my thoughts on starting seedling plants for more info on that.

I love how when we started the conversation one of the considerations and pressures if you will, was the fact that he realized that his children were so disconnected from nature, they they didn’t know how to even walk through a natural setting. That’s to me one of the very important products from growing up running through the forests and fields. You learn to exist within a natural setting, to be a part of the world around you. It’s not like life is meant to be isolated and segmented, pushed back and kept safe. I want my kids to experience a bit of danger, because it teaches respect and caution. If you grow up never experiencing adversity or natural resistance, you end up with this false sense of security and entitlement. Children need to be able to be aware, adapt, and overcome obstacles and setbacks. I won’t get into this whole existential musing, but I just wanted to bring that up for just a second, and share that it’s one of the driving forces behind the choices my wife and I make for our family. To raise strong, mentally resilient, and confident young adults, they must be a part of the real world, not living in videogames and hollywood productions. To run through the forest barefoot, build a treefort, climb a tree, fall out of a tree, carve a stick, get cut because you were being careless, take care of yourself, see an animal being born, take care of a baby animal. That was my childhood, it made me a strong enough person to deal with more adversity than you can imagine!

Well, I know we covered quite a few topics and discussed a lot, so if you liked that episode, you’ll really like the next episode where we get deeper into some more revelations from the past year and talk about a lot more. Now, I have one favor to ask you, if you want to be included in the insider track to get the first shot at being a part of the new developments coming soon, you need to go to the website, and at the bottom of the page is a place where you can enter your email address to subscribe to our updates email. I rarely send out an email so you don’t have to worry about getting flooded with promo stuff. I strictly use it for important inside track information like plant sales, upcoming events, meetups, and occasionally when I come across a great deal it’s only those people on the list who hear about it. So if you haven’t done so already, you might have missed out!

Ok, well I’ve got a lot of work to catch up on, I hope you join me again next week for the next segment in our conversation where we talk about vine borers, pumpkin mania, row covers, shade structures, gardening vs. farming, squash bugs, and a crazy solution to vegetables that don’t produce. You will think it’s insane but it really works!

To submit a question for the show or to contact me, just send an email to nick@homegrownliberty.com
Until next week

I hope you have a wonderful day, God Bless. And as always “Go Do Good Things”

16 Responses to “E0028 | Listen in on a Consult with a Friend: Part 1”

  1. How deep to you place the drip tap? How is it placed in relation to your rows, directly below, between?

    • Great show. I can’t wait for the next episode. Thanks for taking the pressure off us newbies.

      • @anthony, Newbies of the world, unite!

      • Nick Ferguson July 28, 2016 at 2:27 pm Reply

        We’re all on sliding scales of experience and success! The important thing to remember is that doing something good, just making some movement towards your goals is better than nothing. Failure should be embraced not feared! If you’ve failed, that means you’ve tried! You have to try if you ever want to succeed!

    • @anthony, We just put it on the soil and then covered with 3-4″ of wood shaving mulch. Our beds are 42″ wide, so we ran two runs about 12″-16″ in from the side of the beds. Anything that got planted in the center of the bed ran in between the tubing and any staggered plantings sat on one side or the other of the irrigation line.

      The stuff can be buried as well. Over the course of the season, much of it has naturally embedded into the top layer of soil. As time passes it will get deeper and deeper until eventually we’ll have to pull it out and start the process over because it’s too deep. It really has worked well for us.

      • Thanks for the tips. I’m not too far from you in Decatur, AL. We just bought 12 acres and are getting infrastructure & fruit trees going while we wait for our house to sell.

    • Nick Ferguson July 28, 2016 at 2:24 pm Reply

      I’ll be setting my drip tubes up 1′ apart along the beds on top of the soil, covered by mulch. I’ll be filming the whole setup from bare ground to finished bed this fall.

  2. Very good episode! Boy, can I relate! I have been trying so hard to get “this gardening thing” figured out and I still, after 3 years, have a sad excuse for a garden. I want to grow healthy food for my family without chemicals but the bugs are enjoying more of the sweat of my brow than I am! I still don’t think I can bring myself to buy pesticides but at least I don’t feel quite so alone!

  3. @Tina, we haven’t resorted to any pesticides, yet, but Miracle Grow has made an appearance this year. The soil is the key. Building good soil life seems to solve all issues.

  4. I can SO relate!!!! I’ve read books and websites, but in application, I stink! We have hard clay soil. You can’t grow anything in that stuff. So we used raised beds and still it was pitiful. I have come so close to giving up because I’m all or nothing. If I couldn’t do it the perfect organic way, I couldn’t do it. I have taken a new approach this year thanks to Nick saying just plant something and it’s ok to need help! This podcast is a great encouragement. Thanks ya’ll!!!

    • @Melissa, hang in there! Nick’s philosophy has changed our outlook on the homestead. It’s really liberating (pun intended).

    • Nick Ferguson July 28, 2016 at 2:34 pm Reply

      There ya go! As for heavy clay, getting a TON of mulch to cover it constantly will do a lot to help you. Always covered soil, and try to keep it moist. My method for building healthy soil will help your soils transition to crumbly black goodness. Bacterial action will actually start to break that soil into little clumps that will break apart and allow more airflow, which will increase the bacterial life, which will break the clay into smaller crumbles, so on and so forth. Just keep working at it!

  5. I like the consult episodes, keep them coming!

  6. I love this episode especially the end where you talked about how your children need to learn how to get along outside in the real world. I sure that I am not like most of your listeners, (lets say older) I’m an grandma that lives in my home town that that has radically changed since I was a child. I have grown up raising animals and we always had a garden, my husband and I were fortunately able to raise our children doing the same. The issue is that we live near a big city (San Francisco) and our children and grandchildren can no longer afford to live on much land, they garden very small container gardens but the kiddos don’t get to experience running through fields and woods.
    Keep up the good work

  7. Where can I find the drip tape?

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